AFTER 4 YEARS YOUR CONTRACT IS OVER AND CANNOT BE RENEWED. To be honest, many college kids waste 4 years of tuition partying and enjoying life without learning anything substantial. Spent $50 at the Vagabond motel next to the airport. It may be time to consider this for FAs too. Breeze Will Pay Flight Attendants $1,200 Per Month, Wants To Ding Your Credit Card, Avelo Airlines having launched operations, Breeze Airways is expected to be the next US airline startup, expected to start selling tickets any day now, Breeze Airways views flight attendants as interns, Breeze wants you to buy a filet mignon sandwich, Breeze will have low fares, no change fees, Breeze has a huge cost advantage over competitors, Breezes controversial approach to hiring flight attendants, Should Babies Be Allowed In First Class? Fingers crossed and ready to go! As a retired Flight Attendant after 34 years of service I find this both offensive and sad. I wish more airlines provided housing options. ", but I actually challenge you to schedule surgery with a doctor with only a GED. Also, Breeze Airways may be a good solution for a pilot who only wants to rack up 55 hours each month with a lighter workload. Each model comes with display stand, rolling gears, and is assembled and ready to display. Flight Attendants are hired because they are qualified to provide safety & service. $1200 per month is a crime. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. So, that will be difficult. 100% Upvoted. I think these "internships" are not meant for people looking at a career as a flight attendant, but rather college age kids looking for a unique experience. Neeleman is begging for a pilot union to quickly form on his new airline, whether he knows it or not. For what you spent in training together with what is intelectually asked of a pilot, pay is completely out of line with most smaller/regional airlines. That sums up who youll be flying behind if you choose to fly on this completely unproven carrier. Im a bit confused. Off topic, sorry. Breeze Airways Hello! 5) I will meet many travelers and may be able to network my way into other opportunities when I As a college student, I love the idea! Hopefully professional pilots will take a hard look at other careers before accepting garbage like this. Breeze will be a low cost carrier primarily operating point-to-point routes that arent currently served. Welcome! The pay scale offered is not "borderline exploitative", it IS exploitative. Even if it flies at first, at some point of growth, you won't be able to justify career training. I think it will succeed as long as they can attract enough flight attendants on an ongoing basis. It can be very exciting and rewarding, but. the recruiters told me: *No insurance provided. But I guess everyone agrees that the duties of FAs are just going down day by day. Get real. Pilots are guaranteed pay of $75 per month. *The whole Home Monthly is based on operational needs and must be scheduled 3 weeks prior. An economy and society needs its worker bees as much as (more than?) So they only want young, pretty, college girls and completely straight acting College guys? The airline should do fine, at least up to a certain scale. Pre-Order now!Pre-Order Inflight A359FJ0623 1:200 Fiji Airways Airbus A350-941Highly detailed diecast pre-finished collector model airplane. Breeze Airways - Pay Scale Update. Some of these kids may never have ever been able to do that. 5) I will meet many travelers and may be able to network my way into other opportunities when I graduate. This says to me that the quality of pilot they will be recruiting will be far from the best and hence, an airline to swerve. Glad I was just in time to work and fly through the good times and happily retired now. Partying and hanging out with friends is what college students are supposed to be doing. They are exploiting pilots. I'm a retired AA captain. All around me were developers making millions of dollars of year in salary and stock options, and there was little old me, paid hourly making about $28,000 a year in an expensive city. Free shipping for many products! We are in search of the best and the brightest to join our dynamic team of aviation and people enthusiasts. My starting pay clear back in 1983 was1500/month! For a college student, this beats the shit out of working at the mall. I am not necessarily rooting for him, since it depends on how happy employees are, but I think he and his outline of the new airline model have potential for spectacular success, regardless. Individuals can't afford premiums. There's a good chance that well-spoken, polished, and slightly tired surgeon you call "doctor", who has "MD" on their snappy-looking business card, and who so patiently listens to all of your ailments and deep thoughts about dizziness and tinnitus is a resident physician, AKA an intern. At least, I can't find that information. You have 7 days to get yourself there, find a place, sign a lease, move in, get airport badges and be ready to fly on day 8.). 2. Or to put it another way, by year six, First Officers at Breeze Airways end up making almost half as much as JetBlue Co-Pilots. Breeze Airways will initially fly Embraer 190s, but eventually plans to operate a fleet consisting exclusively of Airbus A220s. With the A220 entering service in early 2022, the company will rapidly expand its network throughout the US and beyond, creating new base opportunities, very attractive lines of flying, very quick upgrades, and excellent quality of life. Its their choice. Of course this wont last as the market rebounds, but the die will have been cast for what they think of their employees. As the app is described: That app, Neeleman says, is designed to convince customers to shell out for upgrades and extras, from food to rental cars, which Breeze is depending on to turn a profit. Were going to work hard to make sure this doesnt get off the ground, says Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA. You ask "why not schedule surgery with a doctor as an intern? Flight Attendants are hired because they are qualified to provide safety & service. This is a prime example of how capitalism is at the cancer stage in the United States, and rapidly approaching stage 4. *The whole Home Monthly is based on operational needs and must Monty, I interviewed at Breeze a few months back. The founder of the airline is David Neeleman, the same guy behind JetBlue. Because it is an opportunity to teach them the skills to land a career or job that they would not have otherwise had a chance for. Hire new, low hours FO with a salary that is 30% lower than the market on the promise that they will be promoted to captain in 1 year. As youd expect, existing flight attendant unions will no doubt be targeting Breeze: The largest U.S. flight attendants union says it looks like an attempt to abuse federal work-study subsidies to hold down labor costs. El Segundo, CA 90245. FAs are there for your safety: The younger the FA, the stronger they are. This is how young doctors learn their craft in America and all over the world. Finally, Breeze needs to get its financial footing or their employees could all be forced out on the street. The *interns* that get suckered into this are clearly being taken advantage of and exploited. Not my kind of thing. The airline is expected to start selling tickets any day now, and I know many of us are curious about what the Salt Lake City-based carriers first routes will be. I could not afford to live in SFO and couldn't find another crashpad with openings unless I hot racked. Our fares are low! It sounds to me like I am reading a history book about people who had to work in company housing, buying at the company store - another day older and deeper in debt. How far can this avalanche go where the top 1% get ever greater portions of the wealth, while the rest, well we dont think about them. but if your salary stays low, you cannot build a family. So, before any taxes at all, they would be looking at $20-30/hr. Wasn't aware of breeze low pay scale. The role of flight attendant will be more like an internship than a career, because Neeleman believes flight attendants dont improve much with years of experience, and that they can get trapped in a dead-end job due to the seniority system we see at other airlines: Its not something politically correct but its something David wholeheartedly believes in, says Trey Urbahn, a Breeze board member whos worked with Neeleman at several of his other airlines. It's not like America's legacy airlines are immune to hiring very young, very inexperienced people. PEOPLExpress anyone? *The whole "Home Monthly" is based on operational needs and must be scheduled 3 weeks prior. Unfortunatetly, US travel and passenger fare remains an uncertainty. Nobody knows yet. And they likely will try to launch with no union, am I right? What do you make of Breezes approach to hiring? And you're worried about the quality of housing? Bottom line: Supply and Demand principles are at play. Nice, new and nonstop. NB: there's a pilot shortage. And many of the commenters on here will fill seats when UA is 5x the price on the same route regardless of what they think of labor rights or real college education. I think the best way for this airline to implement their business model is to pay for its pilots training from 0 hrs to 1500 hrs and then these pilots can work for them at their pay scale that will make more sense. AFTER 4 YEARS YOUR CONTRACT IS OVER AND CANNOT BE RENEWED. So, that will be difficult. Nah man, cars suck. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Does this really qualify as an "internship"? Neeleman has a track record of success in the industry, so Im curious to see how this venture works out. Not to mention the work ethic or lack of it. I interviewed with them for cabin crew You must be enrolled at Utah Valley University full-time and maintain 3.0 GPA. I already feel bad for the disadvantaged kids that will end up getting wrangled into this to help pay for a couple semesters of college. 4) $6,000 annually towards my tuition! Would you pay your doctor, lawyer, nurse, even architect, engineer, electrician, plumber, welder etc. Highest paying job titles at Breeze Airways include Back-End Software Engineer, Director, Financial Reporting, and Technical Program Manager Total value of jobs: $12,985,000 Total Jobs: 3. Not sure if labor pool for whom the model fits is really large enough to support high turnover baked into the model or can support scale to provide regular flight frequency but we'll see. And there are always plenty more ready to come into the pipeline. Many may look back later in life with a better career and better economics fondly with the experience they had along with friendships made. (the "free" school and housing comes out of their pay just as much as if they got full pay, and paid for the school/housing themselves). Would you like to buy a filet mignon sandwich that we can hand deliver to you in your seat? Just add all these fun little add-ons where you can just click yes, yes, yes. And we can just keep dinging the credit card.. Login Support. Take it easy. Breeze Airways provides nonstop service between underserved routes across the U.S. at affordable fares. Wow, quite a few idiot comments: 1) Against unions: not every employee is good at negotiating. According to Neeleman: Ive shared my general thoughts on Breeze in the past, though based on these updates I have a few more things to add: Breeze should be launching operations shortly, becoming the second new US airline to launch in a matter of weeks. The race to the bottom continues. Breeze Airways Pilots are responsible for ensuring safe and timely flight operations in accordance with all Company policies and Federal Aviation Regulations. There are almost 1000 E175/E190 type rated pilots from ExpressJet and Compass. In youth I worked fast food full-time for many years. To help clarify that, the DoL requires that the intern cannot displace any worker, receive instruction equivalent to or complementary to enrolled coursework. May be this a good business model. This wage is above the federal minimum wage, includes housing and a $6k tuition credit. *Layovers will be rare (mechanical issues, weather), trip planning will be "turns" - out and back same day. See more about our ethics policies here. I have no doubts in my mind that they'll increase it in time, but they need a few years of profitability under their belt first so they can justifiably offer higher hours/pay. As a pilot with one of the aforementioned regionals, this is an ongoing conversation. So much whining and squealing. What sets Breeze Airways hourly salaries apart is the monthly hourly guarantee, which is only 55 hours, or at most, $7,865 per month before taxes (for Captains in their sixth year). Thanks for being transparent that these comments are nearly all from a union organizing push before the airline even launches. Split a very inexpensive room with one or two others and have a fun time. The estimated total pay for a Flight Attendant at Breeze Airways is $4,639 per month. Oh, and first crew base is MYR. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. The estimated hourly pay at Breeze Airways ranges from approximately $11.82 per hour for Software Engineer Intern to $167 per hour for Captain. My view is something of a combination of many of the other posts. And the US would have PRETTY PLEASANT FRIENDLY SKIES again. Pilots are only guaranteed pay for 55 hours per month of flying (this is really the worst part, since pilots at most airlines are guaranteed 75+ hours per month), Here is JetBlue Airways pilot pay scale for the same airplane. It will be interesting to see how it plays out for sure. Low fares. The $1200 a month is not really a salary, but rather a stipend for a college-like experience while interning as FA part time. Sounds pretty abysmal. For the right crewmember this could be an excellent opportunity. I think the deal is too good to be true while others think it's chump change and will never work. This has been the business model of little outfits like this for 30 years. Neeleman is no doubt a bright guy, having founded several airlines, including JetBlue. 1. They pack you in like lemmings in the dorms and during spring break we slept 12 to a hotel room. Again, a lot will depend upon the future demand for air travel. What Are Redeye Flights? The airline carrier has opted to utilize a fleet of Embraer 195s. No guests. And @Ben L. is still reminiscing the best cars in the world evar, made by 100% union labor in the 1980s. As for the FA's..they will definitely be lined up around the block for a job like this with those benies. We are seeing a rapid deployment of apps and self-service kiosks to replace human workforce that don't bring $15 an hour value. Never found out what would happen if you fall below 3.0. At least here they will learn something. The initiative will see flight attendants be paid a fixed sum of $1,200 each month. 3) People as interns/college kids: I would like to have a job for life. I do not believe for a minute service will be worse than economy on AA or UA. You seem to be an angry young man. I considered myself a professional and definitely grew with my profession.. All union issues aside I find it interesting that he has singled out the flight attendants specifically.. Nobody even knows what the work culture, training will be like at this startup, yet look at all of the certainty in these comments already. You should be too. Thanks !! Log in or . New airplane, new business model. And was told that 90% would be "turns", out and back same day - no layovers. At first glance, those rates do not seem too unusual. And their policy looks discriminatory to me as it seems to (without directly saying it) exclude any older, experienced flight attendants and those who are married.
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